天主教教堂、学校、修院和医院 •1. Franciscan church and school (road 23) - burned (Suez) •2. Monastery of the Holy Shepherd and hospital - burned (Suez) •3. Church of the Good Shepherd, Monastery of the Good Shepherd - burned in molotov attack (Asuit) •4. Coptic Catholic Church of St. George - burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) •5. Church of the Jesuits - burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) •6. Fatima Basilica - attacked - Heliopolis •7. Coptic Catholic Church of St. Mark - burned (Minya - Upper Egypt) •8. Franciscan convent (Sisters of the Immaculate Heart of Mary) - burned (Beni Suef, Upper Egypt) •9. Church of St. Teresa - burned (Asuit, Upper Egypt) •10. Franciscan Church and School - burned (Asuit, Upper Egypt) •11. Convent of St Joseph and school - burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) •12. Coptic Catholic Church of the Sacred Heart - torched (Minya, Upper Egypt) •13 Convent of the Sisters of Saint Mary - attacked (Cairo) •14. School of the Holy Shepherd - attacked (Minya, Upper Egypt)
东正教和福音派教堂 •1. Anglican Church of St. Saviour - burned (Suez) •2. Evangelical Church of St Michael - surrounded and sacked (Asuit, Upper Egypt) •3. Coptic Orthodox Church of St. George - Burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) •4. Church of Al-Esla - burned (Asuit, Upper Egypt) • 5. Adventist Church - burned, the pastor and his wife abducted (Asuit, Upper Egypt) • 6. Church of the Apostles - burned (Asuit, Upper Egypt) • 7. Church of the Holy renewal - burned (Asuit, Upper Egypt) •8. Diocesan Centre Coptic Orthodox Qusiya - burned (Asuit, Upper Egypt) •9. Church of St. George - burned (Arish, North Egypt) •10. Church of St. George in al-Wasta - burned (Beni Suef, Upper Egypt) •11. Church of the Virgin Mary - attacked (Maadi, Cairo) •12. Church of the Virgin Mary - attacked (Mostorod, Cairo) •13. Coptic Orthodox Church of St. George - attacked (Helwan, Cairo) •14. Church of St. Mary of El Naziah - burned (Fayoum, Upper Egypt) •15. Church of Santa Damiana - sacked and burned (Fayoum, Upper Egypt) •16. Church of St. Theodore - burned (Fayoum, Upper Egypt) •17. Evangelical Church of al-Zorby - Sacked and destroyed (Fayoum, Upper Egypt) •18. Church of St. Joseph - burned (Fayoum, Upper Egypt) •19. Franciscan School - burned (Fayoum, Upper Egypt) •20. Coptic Orthodox Diocesan Center of St. Paul - burned (Gharbiya, Delta) •21. Coptic Orthodox Church of St. Anthony - burned (Giza) •22. Coptic Church of St. George - burned (Atfeeh, Giza) •23. Church of the Virgin Mary and father Abraham - burned (Delga, Deir Mawas, Minya, Upper Egypt) •24. Church of St. Mina Abu Hilal Kebly - burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) •25. Baptist Church in Beni Mazar - burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) •26. Church of Amir Tawadros - burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) •27. Evangelical Church - burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) •28. Church of Anba Moussa al-Aswad- burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) •29. Church of the Apostles - burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) •30. Church of St Mary - arson attempt (Qena, Upper Egypt) •31. Coptic Church of St. George - burned (Sohag, Upper Egypt) •32. Church of Santa Damiana - Attacked and burned (Sohag, Upper Egypt) •33. Church of the Virgin Mary - burned (Sohag, Upper Egypt) •34. Church of St. Mark and community center - burned (Sohag, Upper Egypt) •35. Church of Anba Abram - destroyed and burned (Sohag, Upper Egypt)
基督徒机构、院舍 •1. House of Fr. Angelos (pastor of the church of the Virgin Mary and Father Abraham) - burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) •2. Properties and shops of Christians - Burnt (Arish, North Egypt) •3. 17 Christian homes attacked and looted (Minya, Upper Egypt) •4. Christian homes - Attach (Asuit, Upper Egypt) •5. Offices of the Evangelical Foundation - burned (Minya, Upper Egypt) •6. Stores, pharmacies, hotels owned by Christians - attacked and looted (Luxor, Upper Egypt) •7. Library of the Bible Society - burned (Cairo) •8. Bible Society - burned (Fayoum, Upper Egypt) •9. Bible Society- burned (Asuit, North Egypt).
六四和埃及最近发生的事最为相似的问题是什么?都是要求民主,打破专制,这是他们核心的共同点,如果没有民主,什么事都是空谈(如果今天军方灭了穆尔西,明天他会灭了李尔西、张尔西...,让军方把民主玩弄于掌骨之间,中了军方的诡计)。
如果穆尔西有问题,完全可以通过合法手段(下次总统选举)来让他下台,如果是这样埃及这个文明古国可以走向复兴之路,我们大家且不要以自己的好恶来做人(埃及人民)师,他们要走什么路完全可以用选票来说话,而非我们去指导!!!
中国人现在就要中共下台,可以象你说的一样通过什么“合法”手段来让它下台吗?国不同理相同,什么是“政治”?“政治”本身就少不了强制,只能说这种强制会有正义的强制和邪恶的强制这种区别。
我可以给你分析一下汉字“政”是什么意思。一层意思是:手里拿根棍子,就象大人打小孩子一样,通过强制要行为不正的人归正。另一层意思是:“正”的本意是“征”,“正”是“征”的本字,上面一横是前行的目标,下面的“止”字是人的脚,表示军人们在走路前进,右边当然还是打击的意思。这意味着什么?这说明自古以来,人们都明确知道,政权就是用武力来取得和维护的。只能说是正义者来取得和掌握政权,还是邪恶者取得和掌握政权,决定了这个政权是正义的性质还是邪恶的性质。但是别以为正义的政权就应该是民主的形式,就应该什么事都用和平的方式来解决。
埃及未来政治走向究竟如何?
当年蒋介石心慈手软,两次国共合作,断送中华民国。
其实,政权是怎么回事?政权就是由实力来决定的,就是枪杆子里面出政权的。谁敢说不是这样?美国的民主政权不也是枪杆子里面出来的吗?
一个政权好不好,只能说决定于掌握政权的人思想好不好。掌握政权的人思想好,那自然具体的政治制度就会合情合理,国家的政治就会昌明;思想不好,形式上合情合理的程序也会沦为骗人的幌子或败坏的工具。
所以说,社会的好坏不在乎是君主制度还是民主制度这种外在的形式,而在乎掌握政权的人思想好不好。
在民主制度下,如果大多数民众的思想败坏了,那他们选出的也会是败坏的总统,各种荒唐败坏的事就会堂而皇之的成为合法的、正常的。就以现在的美国社会来说,美国政府已经把同性婚姻定为合法的了,这是不是败坏?
美国政府把同性婚姻合法化,这符合程序正义吧?但这个“程序正义”带来的的却是极度的败坏和不正义。为什么会有这样的自相矛盾?这只能说明一个问题,那就是我们看任何问题,都不能只是看表面的好坏,而是要看实质的正邪。没有什么东西是绝对的,“程序正义”应该受到“实质正义”的约束。
為證明對方該殺 , 曹先生還找了些理由 . 但即便如此 , 是不是也殺錯了人 ? 死的人中有多少是恐怖份子 ?
2013/08/18 17:01
埃及 - 伊斯兰教
遭穆斯林兄弟会抢掠或焚烧的教堂、教会学校、机构、店铺之清单
以下列出58间遭抢劫和烧毁的教会建筑物(包括修道院和学校),全部由基督徒教会代表确认。
开罗(亚洲新闻) - 至少有58间基督徒教堂、学校、机构、院舍及店铺,在最近三天遭到袭击、抢劫和放火烧毁。它们被穆斯林兄弟会及在7月3日被废黜的前埃及总统穆罕默德·穆尔西(Mohamed Morsi)的支持者破坏。在8月14日,军队一直试图驱逐在厄尔尼达广场和阿达伟耶地区的静坐的伊斯兰主义者。经过一连串暴力蹂躏,造成超过600人死亡,数千人受伤。但是暴力袭击,也针对了天主教、东正教、福音派教会,以至基督徒的住宅和店铺。以下是本社经过教会人士核实证明的。
基督徒教会的代表拟订一份清单,由埃及天主教会的新闻室整理,交由《亚洲新闻》发表:
天主教教堂、学校、修院和医院
•1. Franciscan church and school (road 23) - burned (Suez)
•2. Monastery of the Holy Shepherd and hospital - burned (Suez)
•3. Church of the Good Shepherd, Monastery of the Good Shepherd - burned in molotov attack (Asuit)
•4. Coptic Catholic Church of St. George - burned (Minya, Upper Egypt)
•5. Church of the Jesuits - burned (Minya, Upper Egypt)
•6. Fatima Basilica - attacked - Heliopolis
•7. Coptic Catholic Church of St. Mark - burned (Minya - Upper Egypt)
•8. Franciscan convent (Sisters of the Immaculate Heart of Mary) - burned (Beni Suef, Upper Egypt)
•9. Church of St. Teresa - burned (Asuit, Upper Egypt)
•10. Franciscan Church and School - burned (Asuit, Upper Egypt)
•11. Convent of St Joseph and school - burned (Minya, Upper Egypt)
•12. Coptic Catholic Church of the Sacred Heart - torched (Minya, Upper Egypt)
•13 Convent of the Sisters of Saint Mary - attacked (Cairo)
•14. School of the Holy Shepherd - attacked (Minya, Upper Egypt)
东正教和福音派教堂
•1. Anglican Church of St. Saviour - burned (Suez)
•2. Evangelical Church of St Michael - surrounded and sacked (Asuit, Upper Egypt)
•3. Coptic Orthodox Church of St. George - Burned (Minya, Upper Egypt)
•4. Church of Al-Esla - burned (Asuit, Upper Egypt)
• 5. Adventist Church - burned, the pastor and his wife abducted (Asuit, Upper Egypt)
• 6. Church of the Apostles - burned (Asuit, Upper Egypt)
• 7. Church of the Holy renewal - burned (Asuit, Upper Egypt)
•8. Diocesan Centre Coptic Orthodox Qusiya - burned (Asuit, Upper Egypt)
•9. Church of St. George - burned (Arish, North Egypt)
•10. Church of St. George in al-Wasta - burned (Beni Suef, Upper Egypt)
•11. Church of the Virgin Mary - attacked (Maadi, Cairo)
•12. Church of the Virgin Mary - attacked (Mostorod, Cairo)
•13. Coptic Orthodox Church of St. George - attacked (Helwan, Cairo)
•14. Church of St. Mary of El Naziah - burned (Fayoum, Upper Egypt)
•15. Church of Santa Damiana - sacked and burned (Fayoum, Upper Egypt)
•16. Church of St. Theodore - burned (Fayoum, Upper Egypt)
•17. Evangelical Church of al-Zorby - Sacked and destroyed (Fayoum, Upper Egypt)
•18. Church of St. Joseph - burned (Fayoum, Upper Egypt)
•19. Franciscan School - burned (Fayoum, Upper Egypt)
•20. Coptic Orthodox Diocesan Center of St. Paul - burned (Gharbiya, Delta)
•21. Coptic Orthodox Church of St. Anthony - burned (Giza)
•22. Coptic Church of St. George - burned (Atfeeh, Giza)
•23. Church of the Virgin Mary and father Abraham - burned (Delga, Deir Mawas, Minya, Upper Egypt)
•24. Church of St. Mina Abu Hilal Kebly - burned (Minya, Upper Egypt)
•25. Baptist Church in Beni Mazar - burned (Minya, Upper Egypt)
•26. Church of Amir Tawadros - burned (Minya, Upper Egypt)
•27. Evangelical Church - burned (Minya, Upper Egypt)
•28. Church of Anba Moussa al-Aswad- burned (Minya, Upper Egypt)
•29. Church of the Apostles - burned (Minya, Upper Egypt)
•30. Church of St Mary - arson attempt (Qena, Upper Egypt)
•31. Coptic Church of St. George - burned (Sohag, Upper Egypt)
•32. Church of Santa Damiana - Attacked and burned (Sohag, Upper Egypt)
•33. Church of the Virgin Mary - burned (Sohag, Upper Egypt)
•34. Church of St. Mark and community center - burned (Sohag, Upper Egypt)
•35. Church of Anba Abram - destroyed and burned (Sohag, Upper Egypt)
基督徒机构、院舍
•1. House of Fr. Angelos (pastor of the church of the Virgin Mary and Father Abraham) - burned (Minya, Upper Egypt)
•2. Properties and shops of Christians - Burnt (Arish, North Egypt)
•3. 17 Christian homes attacked and looted (Minya, Upper Egypt)
•4. Christian homes - Attach (Asuit, Upper Egypt)
•5. Offices of the Evangelical Foundation - burned (Minya, Upper Egypt)
•6. Stores, pharmacies, hotels owned by Christians - attacked and looted (Luxor, Upper Egypt)
•7. Library of the Bible Society - burned (Cairo)
•8. Bible Society - burned (Fayoum, Upper Egypt)
•9. Bible Society- burned (Asuit, North Egypt).
埃及“至少有58间基督徒教堂、学校、机构、院舍及店铺,在最近三天遭到穆斯林兄弟会成员等暴民的袭击、抢劫和放火烧毁” [Asia News][中] [2013-08-18]
当公民个人真正握有言论自由及监督权利的时候,哪还会有遍地贪腐、到处罪恶?!
耶稣再临这件事,很明显和紫薇圣人的出现这件事在重要程度上不相上下。因为耶稣和紫薇圣人都是要做世上的君王元首,要影响整个人类,在这一点上,他们的使命是相同的,那么耶稣和紫薇圣人很可能就是指的同一个人,只不过西方人和东方人分别从自己文化的角度对此人作了预言和描述。
如果将来中国人要用武力来清算中共的罪恶,是不是正义战士们在战场上还要等待审判完共匪们,再来向它们开枪啊?
“政教合一"是被历史证明的“威胁世界”的,不要胡说八道,不懂去看看中世纪欧洲史,人民给了“穆兄会”机会,在1年多时间,它不仅将国家搞得乱七八糟,而且还造成了严重分裂,如果“穆兄会”是提倡政教合一的话,不管用什么手段将它推翻都是对的。 民主不是最好的,民主只是最不差的,希特勒也是民主选择的,难道你希望被希特勒统治,埃及人民水平不高,选择了“穆兄会”,现在知道错了,现在在纠错,难道要让另一个希特勒做大? 和平,你和希特勒讲和平,你找死啊!
犯错?是犯罪,是想把埃及拉回到专制统治
他人的苦难我们感同身受。
缅甸军政府和平转型值得中国埃及效法。
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